Latest Toronto 18 ‘Terror’ Wiretaps Confirm Youths Goaded by Reservist, Paid Police Informant
Isabel Teotonio, The Toronto Star
Jun 06, 2008
Alleged members of Toronto 18 outlined plan to use `white girls’ in fund-raising bank scam
Members of an alleged homegrown terror cell were hoping to use a few “very presentable” blonde women as part of an elaborate bank scam to raise funds necessary to carry out devastating attacks on Canada, a Brampton court was told yesterday
According to electronic intercepts, the alleged ringleader can be heard explaining that he needs $10,000 to pay for a shipment of 13 imported firearms, including AK-47s, M16s and assault rifles.
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“They’re probably expecting what happened in London … some bombing in a subway,” he says, referring to the July 2005 terror attack. “Our thing is, it’s much, much greater on a scale. It’s you do it once and you make sure they can never recover again.”
He criticizes Canada’s military presence and role in Afghanistan and explains why it warrants retribution.
“You harm one Muslim, the whole Muslim nation has to defend that person,” he is overheard saying. “You wanna be on the sidelines or you wanna be on the front lines? Sideliners get no reward and they still die. Frontlines gets you rewards.”
Rather than attacking Canadian soldiers in Afghanistan, where they will retaliate using a “carpet bomb” to destroy an entire village and kill hundreds of Muslims, it makes more sense to attack here, he says.
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The featured speaker in most of the intercepts is the alleged ringleader, whose rants on jihad and waging war appear to startle Talib, the evidence suggests.
In a follow-up conversation, an accused warns the alleged leader that if he continues “talking about religion as part of this, and we gotta do this for religion and where people die … (Talib) is not gonna get those things … He’s gonna be like, `I wouldn’t give a dollar if, if I know civilians gonna get hurt.’ ”
In another car probe, the alleged ringleader refers to Paul Martin, who he thinks is still prime minister, and says to another accused, “I know you might not be too down with the beheadings but it’s terror, it strikes in their hearts.”
The soft-spoken man responds, “What does that poor person feel like when they lose their head?”
The informant, Mubin Shaikh, pipes up, “Nothing … He’s dead, man.”
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